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PCOC16: "Oncology Care 2017" Panel Discusses Future of Cancer Care

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The 5th annual Patient-Centered Oncology Care® (PCOC) meeting, hosted by The American Journal of Managed Care, November 17-18, in Baltimore, Maryland, concluded with a panel discussion on the future of oncology care in 2017. The panelists concurred that value-based payment is here to stay despite the imminent changes in healthcare.

The 5th annual Patient-Centered Oncology Care® (PCOC) meeting, hosted by The American Journal of Managed Care, November 17-18, in Baltimore, Maryland, concluded with a panel discussion on the future of oncology care in 2017. The discussion was moderated by Bruce A. Feinberg, DO, and included panelists Robert Carlson, MD, chief executive officer of the National Comprehensive Cancer Network (NCCN); Scott Gottlieb, MD, resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute; Ted Okon, MBA, executive director of Community Oncology Alliance; and Kavita Patel, MD, nonresident fellow at the Brookings Institute.

Feinberg began by asking whether value-based care has realigned incentives so that providers look for the minimum acceptable quality of care, which the panelists disagreed with. Patel answered that quality measures are hard to grasp for cancer care, so the evolution to quality and value is not yet complete.

According to Carlson, lack of access is a more concerning problem, because quality care is impossible without access. He hoped that the 20 million people who gained coverage under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) would be able to keep their access even if the ACA is repealed. Gottlieb, a critic of the ACA, said that though the law has increased access, that access is not always sufficient. He predicted that the ACA would be replaced by a number of smaller bills targeted at patients who are disadvantaged under the current system. Patel and Okon agreed that as the ACA is dismantled, there will be a need for bipartisan laws that do not disrupt access.

The conversation then shifted to pathways and guidelines for preferred regimens, which could be a way to maintain quality. Carlson said that guidelines developed by the NCCN were more comprehensive than most pathways that primarily focus on drug spending. He described preferred regimens as “the regimens that should be used the vast majority of the time, and they would typically be the regimens that you would find on a pathway system.”

Feinberg mentioned the problem of low health literacy in the United States, asking the panelists how patient-centered oncology can let patients make their own decisions when these patients may not even understand the implications of these choices. Gottlieb argued that while there will always be some patients who are confused, the average patient deserves more credit.

“We shouldn’t try to regulate towards the consumer who’s going to be confused in the market, I think we need to regulate towards a more average consumer who’s capable, with the right tools and the right education, of making these kinds of decisions,” he said.

Patel, meanwhile, said that many of her patients still don’t understand the basics of insurance, and can be blindsided by surprise out-of-network bills, which she called “really unconscionable.”

Feinberg asked the panel if value-based care is here for good, despite all the changes likely to occur in the next year. Okon affirmed that “right side of the aisle, left side of the aisle, yes, yes, yes. It’s just a matter of how we implement it and go about it, but I think that everybody wants value.” Gottlieb agreed that payment reforms would continue as a “secular trend.”

The panel wrapped up with a question from an audience member on each expert’s personal definition of value. Okon and Patel both defined the concept of value as a combination of quality and cost, but Carlson drew laughs when he replied that value is “whatever the patient tells me it is.”

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